Re: E-85

rexim, what I take issue with is your statement that Gore "seems to be public enemy number one on this forum..." At least for me, what I tried to say is that he doesn't practice what he preaches. That is far from saying he is public enemy number one. Actually, public enemy number one in the environmental arena is the widespread attitude of NIMBY, and the attitude that "cutbacks and sacrifices are fine for everybody else, but don't try to take away my toys (hot cars, hot boats, giant screen TVs), and don't make me sacrifice my comfort (thermostats set to run the HVAC 24 hours a day to keep cool in summer and warm in winter, etc).

And as I tried to say, I see far too many self-proclaimed "environmentalists" who do the same thing as Gore - talk one way in public, and act another in their private lives. As you may know, among other volunteer activities I do in my retirement, I do workshops for the Sierra Club (my land navigation workshop is coming up two weekends from now, at Clair Tappaan Lodge near Donner Pass - expect to hear a lot of LNT mixed with the map and compass, if you attend the workshop). I see far too many large SUVs when I go to Sierra Club events and parked in the parking lot of Clair Tappaan. Many of these arrive with one occupant.

By the way, I don't think most of the changes that the average American should make are really sacrifices. If people would just cut back on waste and excess, my guess is that energy usage in this country could be cut by over half, and everyone would be just as comfortable, and have even more enjoyment in their lives.