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Outdoor Retailer: The Hoopla over a 4P Tent

8:35 a.m. on August 1, 2011 (EDT)
Alicia
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We head to Outdoor Retailer Summer Market this week, and there's so much new backcountry gear to cover we're previewing some that has already caught our eye, like this shelter for four that weighs less than two pounds. Mountain Hardwear Hoopla 4 ...

Full article at http://www.trailspace.com/blog/2011/08/01/mountain-hardwear-hoopla.html

8:24 p.m. on August 1, 2011 (EDT)
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Re: Outdoor Retailer: The Hoopla over 4P Tent

Can someone (Alicia?) interpret " 11th essential " ?   Is that supposed to be added to the proverbial "10 essential things  ... " ?

Kinda like when Nigel Tufnel  (in "This Is Spinal Tap", the movie)  turns his Marshall amplifier's volume knob  up to 11, when it only goes to 10 ???

Where do they get these "marketing types" ??

                                              ~r2~

1:33 a.m. on August 2, 2011 (EDT)
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Re: Outdoor Retailer: The Hoopla over 4P Tent

See now I am totally confused, I thought the 11th essential was toilet paper...

11:35 a.m. on August 2, 2011 (EDT)
Alicia
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Yes, they're referencing the 10 Essentials, which I'll point out often already include emergency shelter.

3:14 p.m. on August 2, 2011 (EDT)
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Re: Outdoor Retailer: The Hoopla over 4P Tent

Rick-Pittsburgh said:

See now I am totally confused, I thought the 11th essential was toilet paper...

No, the 11th essential is whiskey.  You can use poison ivy in lieu of TP, but nothing substitutes for whiskey.

Ed

12:26 p.m. on August 3, 2011 (EDT)
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The 11th essential is, of course, bickies.

8:15 p.m. on August 3, 2011 (EDT)
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pillowthread said:

The 11th essential is, of course, bickies.

No no! Pizza, steak, jerky, beer and whiskey are the five essential food groups - everything else are just optional dietary supplements.  (There is a strong argument for including BBQ ribs, however.)

Ed

4:06 p.m. on August 10, 2011 (EDT)
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Back to the Hoopla...

 

Very clever design BUT - no coverage of the entrance when entering & exiting, no vestibule for packs and boots/shoes. Thus not on my list of tents to buy.

However, that hoop design will likely be found again in future tents by MH and others.

6:52 p.m. on August 10, 2011 (EDT)
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If I had to choose between spending the night in a tiny sleeping chamber w/ a vestibule for my gear or this tent where there’s room for everything inside and then some, I’d choose this.  Tipis and Yurts don’t have vestibules.  Wouldn't want to do it with 4 people though.

11:45 p.m. on August 10, 2011 (EDT)
alan
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This is a cool idea, I hope it works in the field. For that weight you would have a very large 2 person tent.

1:42 p.m. on August 18, 2011 (EDT)
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Other than the "revolutionary" Trussring suspended ring this thing looks just like a Black Diamond megamid.  When we did the east Buttres on Mt. Whitney a few years ago, my friend brought his megamid or one pair of people (it's described as a 4 person shelter), and we simply took the poles of my NF Westwind and the fly only - left the tent at home.  Had the same solution - a single wall outer shelter with no floor.  But both have doors.  Megamid specs put it at just over 2 lbs.

2:06 a.m. on August 22, 2011 (EDT)
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I saw a Hoopla 4 being field tested.  The square footage is almost identical to my Chouinard Pyramid but the Hoopla is 6-sided instead of 4, has more vertical walls (because of the hoop) and a lot more internal volume and usable space than my Chouinard even though it’s shorter, short enough to where they were using a regular hiking pole w/o an extension.  It seems the floating hoop breaks up the run of fabric from peak to ground and that could be why it was so taut.   Set up was far quicker than my pyramid; they used alignment tabs.  They also said it stuffs into a Nalgene bottle (just the fabric, not the stakes and hoop). It’s a not a pyramid, tunnel or dome tent -- MHW calls it a Ring Pole tent.  I’m a fan. 

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