I have had mine since I purchased in new in the early…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: As I recall I paid about $40.00 for it at REI.
I have had mine since I purchased in new in the early seventies. With only two moving parts (the valve and the needle on the "R" model), it is one of the simplest and most reliable stoves ever made. It is not finicky about old or poor quality fuel, as some newer stoves are.
- Very little assembly required to fire it up
- Integrated windscreen works well
- Pump isn't necessary
- Works well with poor quality or old fuel
- Very little to no maintenance required over years of use
- Not as stable as box stoves or modern separate tank stoves
- Wide pots can increase heat in tank
- Tank needs to be insulated from snow to maintain good pressure
I've had my 123R since about 1972. I used it for all my climbing and hiking trips until about 1990, when I stopped camping for few years because of kids. In 1996 I pulled it out again and it fired right up, even with old gas. I did finally replace the cap, just because I thought I should.
This stove will never let you down. Easy to start, warm hands, or even a match will pressurize the tank, then prime and you're good to go. Beautiful to look at, simple and functional. I'm surprised it never won a design award. Still available after more than a half century of use. It isn't a "build a stove" like so many are today. And it simmers well. Plus the noise it makes at full tilt is very comforting, although that might just be me remembering many high camps.
I gave it a 4.5 because it isn't the most stable stove, but aside from that, it is simply the best.
Update: March 12, 2012
I've had this stove for almost forty years. As testament to its reliability, I had not used it in more than ten years in 2010, when I decided to take it on a trip. The gas was at least ten years old. I did replace the tank filler, as I was concerned the gasket might have degraded. The stove fired up immediately, sputtered slightly, and then began the jet roar that these little stoves are famous for.
Though the 123 dates to the 1950's, the particular burner style goes back to the early 20th century, and is still the basis for many modern stoves. Several years ago, the Svea rights changed hands once again. The new rights holder, with many more modern stoves to sell, decided to discontinue the 123. However, there was such a hue and cry from around the world, that they decided to make once last batch to sell through A & H Enterprises, the North American distributor and repair facility. Approximately 200 stoves manufactured that year sold out in a matter of weeks.
This stove, as with many others, is not without its quirks. They are not particularly stable. As well, the integral tank can get too hot if a large diameter pot is used. Further, if used in snow, the tank needs to be insulated to maintain good pressure.
However, the above cons aside, this is a wonderful little stove for one to two people, though I have cooked for four on it.
Set up: It is possibly the easiest pressurized stove to set up. Put it on a level surface and remove the aluminum pot that covers the stove. Insert the key in the valve and the stove is ready to be primed.
Priming: There are several ways to prime this stove. If you have gained a bit of elevation, there may be enough pressure in the tank to get some fuel to squirt out and land in the little cup on the top of the tank. If not, you can gently heat the tank with your hands, or a lighter to generate enough pressure.
Make sure you close the valve before you use the lighter method. The most common method, is to use an eye dropper to place some fuel in the cup on the tank. Finally, ignite the primer fuel and wait until the cup is almost empty, then turn the key and the stove should quickly start sounding like a jet engine.
Flame control: Simmering can be done with this stove with practice, but its main use is for boiling water, cooking rice, or pasta. Baking is not something I would recommend, nor frying.
Boil time: There are stoves out there that are faster boiling, but not by much more than a minute or two at the most. Pot size is more critical here and with a billy that is slighter wider in diameter than the stove, I have boiled a liter in under four minutes.
Wind: The 123 has an integrated windscreen that also holds the pot supports.
Fuel Efficiency: I can't really say exactly how thirsty or thrifty this stove is with fuel. It does appear on par with other white gas stoves, such as those from MSR.
Stability: OK, this is probably the weakest point of the Svea 123. With a pot on top, it has to be watched, lest some clumsy companion upset dinner.
Packability: This doesn't get any better in my opinion and is one of the strongest attributes of this little stove. With its integral tank, protecting windscreen and small pot over the top, this stove is very compact. Mine fits tightly inside a 1.5 liter billy with a top making it a perfect little packed unit, with lighter and eye dropper stored neatly inside. There are no separate hoses or tanks, nor pumps required.
Ease of use: As with any stove, the Svea 123 has its tricks to learn. Yet, once learned, this stove is about the simplest stove around, at least among pressurized white gas and kerosene stoves. The key is hung on a chain, the windscreen need never be removed except to add fuel.
Features: Clever design, as all parts fit neatly into or onto the stove. The valve key has wrenches on it to strip the stove to its fundamental parts.
Construction and Durability: Many people have this stove as an inherited piece from their father or grandfather. It is all metal, mostly brass, and with one moving part (the valve) or two on the 123R (the valve and the integrated cleaning needle) there isn't another pressurized gas or kerosene stove that is simpler. In years of use, it has never let me down.
Conditions: I have used this stove in winter and summer and from 14,000 feet to sea level, from 0 degrees F. to 90 degrees F. I have mostly used it on short trips of less than a week, and cooking for two or sometimes three.
This stove model debuted in 1955, so it isn't 100…
This stove model debuted in 1955, so it isn't 100 years old, despite what you read on the web.
People like to obsess over gear weight, but do a few ounces more or less really matter? Maybe if you're out for a really long time without resupply, but the average backpacker is more likely doing 3 or 4-day weekend trips, or maybe a full week once in a while. If you're worried about weight, lose some body fat.
One reviewer complained that because this stove has slower boil time it will burn more fuel. This is like saying that if you drive 30 mph instead of 60 mph, the journey will take twice as long, therefore you will use twice as much fuel. The reality is that stoves with quicker boil times put out more heat by burning more fuel in less time. The amount of fuel to boil a quart of water is about the same either way, and is far more greatly affected by weather conditions and how well the stove is screened against wind.
This stove's strong points are simplicity, reliability, and nostalgic charm. It is not a 10k Btu volcano. This does not make it inefficient, it just means you have to wait a few more minutes for the water to boil. You got a train to catch or what?
The seva 123 is widely known as one of the most reliable…
Source: received it as a personal gift
The seva 123 is widely known as one of the most reliable stoves ever made and for good reason, they don’t break and most of them are still around in some form or another (parts, tarnished or new in box). The svea has been around for over half a century now and is still available new which can really attest for its quality and customer loyalty. Mine is an older Optimus model, and is missing the aluminum cup so I cannot speak as to the cup's performance. I still enjoy taking this stove on day hikes to cook some ramen noodles or Meso soup, plus it will get you some props from the older trail mates.
- Always works
- Tuff as nails
- Fuel efficent
- Lightweight 15oz full
- Sometimes difficult to prime
- Brass tarnishes easily
- Dosen't carry much fuel
- Poor flame control
- Rather unstable
I found this stove completely by accident when I was cleaning out the basement; I found a milk crate full of old hiking gear. So I drug it out into the sunlight and inspected the contents and was amazed. Inside there were 20 unused Gaz canisters with matching stove, a Whisperlite, fold up candle lantern and the svea 123. Evidently it had been sitting in that crate for 20 years with all the other gear so first thing I did was fill it up with Coleman fuel fill the priming cup and torch it off. After 25 seconds or so I opened up the main valve and the stove lit up with its telltale powerful pulsating flame and freight train sound. The stove worked perfectly despite being stored in a damp dingy basement with fuel in it for over 20 years with just minor tarnishing.
It takes a few uses before you really get setup down mainly because of the key on the chain having to be threaded through the pot support/ windscreen. You want to do this after lighting the priming cup and getting the stove all primed up but before lighting the burner. Make sure you thread the key and chain through the correct hole or the chain will is too short to operate.
Once that is setup open the valve fully if there is audible hissing it is still primes and ready to go. Light the burner with a flint, match or lighter do not worry the flames won’t rise too high when lighting so burning yourself is unlikely. Always practice extreme caution while priming and lighting.
Even with all the Svea’s strengths it does have a couple weaknesses: Flame control with this stove has only 3 modes; off, barely on, and Space Shuttle on take off. All of that in a ¾ turn of the valve.
The boil time of any stove is severely affected by the conditions one is cooking in. Under ideal conditions the svea will boil 1 quart/ liter of water in just under 6 minutes of continuous burn.
The svea is well known for being pretty much wind proof. Once up to temp you can try you’re hardest to blow the stove out but you won’t have any luck, though your heat output will be affected. And the built on wind screen does leave something to be desired.
The svea is incredibly fuel efficient and will often burn one (.35 pint) tank of fuel per hour of use though this all depends on conditions.
This stove is quite packable sized in at 5" tall by 4" in diameter. It will fit in most packs with relative ease and will often times fit into other large cups or pots.
Ease of use
Once acquainted with the stove anyone will find it quite easy to operate and its lack of features tend to make it easier to use. At first priming will be difficult but once one develops their own method the whole process becomes a breeze.
Along with flame control stability is one of the areas where the svea falls short. With its round base and high center of gravity on can find their noodles on the ground if they are not too careful and do not pick a flat cook site. I have heard of some people using the stove supports available for jet boil and other canister stoves with the svea since the bases are similar, but I have yet to try this myself.
The Svea 123 does not really have many features since it is such an old model. But its lack of features I would say is one of its greatest features.
The stove does include:
- Built on wind screen
- Key/tool that will disassemble most of the stove
- Built in pot supporting arms
- Accompanying aluminum cup
Construction & Durability
Don’t let the shiny brass exterior fool you the svea is one tuff as nails stove. Often times the worst thing that could happen is the windscreen could get slightly bent or the brass can get scratched, but fair warning, do not run the stove dry of fuel. This will damage the cotton wick reducing its performance.
I took the stove out the next weekend on a brief day hike to Wallace Lake with my Snow Peak 600 mug, top ramen, coffee, and hot chocolate. So no surprise the thing performed no problem cooking all of it and using hardly any fuel. I have since used this stove on several more day trips in ranging from snowshoe hikes at 5500' to hot sea level summer trips. In all cases the svea has not failed once.
Since the svea can burn multiple fuels, pack well, uses little fuel and requires almost no maintenance I would highly recommend it for a survival kit or bug out bag.
All of this is why I would recommend it to anyone. Sure it may be antiquated but it always works when you need it and has a certain charm that those old stoves do.
How many things do you own that always work as they're…
Price Paid: Nothing - it was inherited
How many things do you own that always work as they're supposed to, and always have worked for more than 30 yrs? Probably not too many. This little wonder is in that elite company.
I inherited mine from my Grandfather who used it to boil water on his row-boat when we spent nights fishing. It always worked. It has been on the Larapinta trail in Outback Australia and always worked. It has been beach camping on Fraser Island, mountain climbing in the Snowies and car camping all around Australia and always worked.
The way I see it the little additional effort to light it and the extra minute it takes to boil a litre of water gives you more time to enjoy the view. It is the reliability (and the stored memories of all the places it has been faithfully looking after you and keeping you company) that make it a priceless piece of kit. Only my Trangia cookset has shared the same good times
This stove has never failed me. It may be a little…
Price Paid: Don't remember-too long ago!
This stove has never failed me. It may be a little heavier than other, newer stoves, but when it counts (like in the winter or other bad weather) it never fails to light.
Yes, it is noisy and smelly compared to the canned gas stoves. It has no maintenance except maybe to replace the fuel cap gasket once in a while.
I have had mine since 1983 and it is still going strong.
I keep searching for this stove at yard sales and…
Price Paid: $30
I keep searching for this stove at yard sales and on ebay. When I get them home, I completely clean them with a mixture of catsup and vinegar and they turn bright.
We always prime them with fuel and warm them up this way and though I have the little pump, it is really not necessary if you are willing to pour a cap full of gas onto the stove and let it burn hot. Once started, it has the characteristic jet engine sound.
I remember my first climb to the top of Mt, Whitney and my first time above tree line and I needed a stove. The guy in the Lone Pine camp store convinced me to buy this and he was sooo right! You can carry this easy, it starts up well and always gives a hot liter of water in about five minutes.
The thing to remember is not to use it with an Outback Oven because I did and I swear the tank was glowing with the added heat. It was with me forty years ago when I did a solo across the Sierras on skis and will there will always be five or six here to give to friends and family as a right of passage.
It is the best stove made and the simplist to use once you figure them out with some practice. Hope this helps!
This is our second Svea. The first one is still going…
Price Paid: $83.81
This is our second Svea. The first one is still going strong after many years and has been trouble free. I use white gas only. Priming is easy with an eye dropper (just use a little gas from the tank).
As advertised runs 50 minutes at full blast. Did a simmer test on a full tank (4.5 ounces, measured). After running 3 minutes full blast, turned to lowest setting that would still produce a blue flame. Ran for 2 hours ( adjusted the flame 3 or 4 times ) and had a little over 2 ounces fuel remaining (measured). Would estimate it would simmer well over 3 hours.
This one spends a lot of time in a horses's saddle bag (inside of an aluminum can from a M1950 stove). The pot supports will adjust to fit oddball cook pots (SWEDISH MESS KITS, CANTEEN CUPS, etc...). No bottles to hook up, no pump to mess with, no o-rings to leak (has one rubber washer in the tank lid).
It just works every time no matter what.
The recent post inspired me to add my thoughts. The…
Price Paid: $85
The recent post inspired me to add my thoughts.
The SVEA 123R is the most reliable piece of hiking gear I own.
I wanted a single stove for year round use. For me, in New England, that means down to -20 deg F.
There are trade-offs:
- it is heavier than most
- it is nosy
- you need to learn how to prime it
- you need to bring an additional fuel bottle
for longer trips
- you need a gentle hand to make it simmer
When you need a warm drink or a hot meal, you know this stove will light.
This is the only backpacking stove I will ever use.
Will depart Springer Mtn. GA late Feb '10 for Mt.
Price Paid: not sure - in 1983
Will depart Springer Mtn. GA late Feb '10 for Mt. Katahdin. I purchased this stove in 1981 as an instructor in the "Wilderness Skills" program Vanderbilt Univ. TN. Thankfully, it has served me faithfully the last 25+ years on many hikes and travels.
My last weeklong hike Mar '09 thru Joyce Kilmer Natl forest (with surprise snowdrifts) proved once again - Considering weight, reliability, functionality and value. The svea 123 is without a doubt the best kitchen tool available on any serious hike. Do not use anything else unless you enjoy eating freeze dried food with cold water on occasion...
Update: December 16, 2009
Never have I owned anything that ALWAYS WORKS. This little brass stove has been my best friend for my entire backpacking lifetime. I would never consider anything else as it's so very dependable. Never once has it let me down! It's beautiful, simple, light enough, and is the best all around cookstove you will ever own. It will be with me on my AT thru hike in 2010.
Simple and almost bullet proof and will SIMMER. Highly…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $110
Simple and almost bullet proof and will SIMMER. Highly recommended.
- Great temp control, easy to start
- Compact--fits into a lot of pots.
- Not the lightest or hottest.
- Requires priming unlike a canister stove.
I have 2 of these stoves. The first I purchased new from an online retailer in 2011 and discovered after extensive examination of the box that it was made in Taiwan. I think the price was about $110 plus shipping.
The second I purchased on eBay recently for considerably less and was a used stove. It was advertised as a 123 and the box it came it said the same but upon examination, I could see the cleaning needle protruding from the jet when the fuel valve turned fully counterclockwise making it a 123R. The fuel tank was stamped Sweden and the box said "Made in Sweden". Both these stoves work great, are very simple to use, and most importantly for me, they will simmer.
I like to use alcohol for priming as it prevents exciting flare ups if over primed. The down side is that the flames are hard to see in the daylight.
It is not the highest heat stove available (4700 BTU's) but unless all you want to do is boil water, the ability to simmer is very important and the Svea 123 will do just that!. When you're camping, what's the hurry? It's also a bit noisy but not objectionable to me. The built in windscreen's pot supports will accommodate different shapes and sizes of cooking vessels. The base is rather small and not as stable as a stove with legs but it is about the same as a canister stove sitting on top of a fuel canister. As the heat from the burner pressurizes the fuel tank, it should be insulated from snow or very cold ground when cooking. It required no pumping, only warming the fuel tank to operate and I do have the pump and cap when it gets very cold.
I highly recommend this stove whether purchased new from an online retailer or on eBay. I can't think of a more reliable stove for solo or camping with 2 people.
I have the SVEA 123R and bought it in 1977. It still…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $30
I have the SVEA 123R and bought it in 1977. It still works faithfully. Never had a problem. Due to weight, I'm considering a Nova Plus or MSR Whisperlite Universal. Should I make a change?
- Always reliable, no maintenance
- Works at altitude and cold
- Very stable with cookset
- Can't use outback oven
- Longer to boil water than newer stoves
I love this little stove. A dropper full of white gas in the cup under the generator is all you need to light it. Use a match or sparkie. The flame is somewhat adjustable, but not super low.
I have used the Outback oven with this, but very carefully. I made an extra shield to cover the gas tank and that worked, but over time it melted my windscreen (aluminum), part of my cookset.
It takes 7 minutes to boil a liter of water. Not as fast as newer stoves, but then there's no maintenance either. Works better if you shelter it from wind, but the cookset that was made to go with this has a nice windscreen in it and it makes it very stable.
The stove itself packs small and even though I don't use the supplied windscreen and "pot", I take it along to protect the stove. It doesn't weigh much.
Overall, I like this stove.
Bought one in 1967 and it has never failed me. I had…
Price Paid: $11.95 in 1967
Bought one in 1967 and it has never failed me. I had a love affair with MSR stoves when white gas got hard to find (see my review of the MSR WisperLight International), but now see the error of my ways.
When starting, the best advice I got on the trail was "there are old pros, and bold pros, but no old bold pros". Just sprinkle a little white gas on the top and strike a lit match to it.
This stove just works. Dependable. No issues. Too bad other things in my life did not work as dependable (cars, boots, cameras, ex-wife, cars, etc).
The stove is brilliant, compact and works every time…
Price Paid: 140
The stove is brilliant, compact and works every time very well. I have had the stove for several years, though starting it especially for the first timers can be challenging. I collect and use all my stoves, as one would know it's integral part of bushwalking and many national parks are going to stove only policy.
From the time you go into the outdoors to have a hot meal at the end of the day, after hard physical activities and a hot cuppa, adds to the enjoyment and each stove I have, has a special memory of time gone by.
The svea 123 has been the best purchase for bush walking I have ever made. It cooks a meal quickly, minimal parts the can be damaged but never have. Some would say there are better stoves out there, and I know you might save a few more grams in weight or have better flame control, however unsurpassed reliability is the svea and optimus products generally in my opinion. The stove continues to maintain its faithfulness, unlike some women in my life.
I can see I will be handing this to the next generation in another 30-40 years, as I think you would have to pry it from my dying hands.
I used to use this stove all the time. Loved it when…
Price Paid: ? bought it in 1976
I used to use this stove all the time. Loved it when in full time use. I put it a way for about fifteen years and only recently brought it back out. Dumped the old fuel out and replaced with new, whamo, fired right up and purred like a kitten. What more can one say about a product this wonderful and reliable?
Old School: A classic from a time gone by and the…
Price Paid: $79
Old School: A classic from a time gone by and the best damn 19oz of compact brass you can pack if you want a hot meal and don't mind a bit of weight (Brass ain't light) or performing the ritual of the manual prime (You gotta spend some quality time).
This thing is about as bullet proof as you can make a stove and the sound when it is fired up is like a cross between a blowtorch and a helicopter. One moving part, a valve using a graphite packing (bushing) as a valve seal. Not the fastest stove.
I have another multi fuel stove that is very good…
Price Paid: $89
I have another multi fuel stove that is very good and has not failed me. I bought this stove because it looked neat, like something a Sherpa might have in his pack. I sometimes buy things just for the because factor. This was one of those things.
The first time I pulled it out my mates all did the Wow that is neat, does it work? thing. I had test fired the little devil prior to the trip and knew it was a worker. I went thru the pre-ignite ritual, using some fire starter paste and then stuck the match to the starter, it flared a bit and the settled down to a steady flame. After about 40 seconds I turned on the fuel valve and the thing let out a very satisfying roar.
First product was hot water for a cup of tea. It did a fantastic job of boiling the water in record time. It earned the OOHs and AAAhs of those present. I had several offers to purchase, but turned them down.
It is a great little stove, reliable, economical and burns hot, even in the Tetons on a cold winter day or night. It doesn't take up much space and is fairly light weight even with a tankful of fuel.
I've used my svea 123 stove several times a year for…
Price Paid: $20
I've used my svea 123 stove several times a year for 38 years, and it has never failed me. All I do is burn it empty at the end of the season, and it fires up every time, the following year. I've never had to service the valve or anything else. As for as I'm concerned, it's the best stove ever.
The only problem is, I'm trying to replace the cookware made for the stove, that nestles together, along with a wind screen. I am unable find a replacement. Sigg use to make aluminum pots, windscreen, and a base made specifically for the svea, but evidently, no longer. If anyone knows a web site, please let me know. Thanks, Dennis Sacramento, CA
I purchased this stove in 1974...for those folks that…
I purchased this stove in 1974...for those folks that don't do math, that was 34 years ago. I can't remember how much I paid for it. I used it for 28 years in the Army including Desert Storm. My Svea isn't nearly as shiny as it use to be, but it still works like new and it has never failed me.
Great little stove for any trip. Classic design and…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $90
Great little stove for any trip. Classic design and easy to use.
- Easy fuel access
- Needs larger pot
- Easier access to fuel pool
Just bought this after anticipating and contemplating the purchase. I have about 8 different types of stoves. I have an old Optimus 8R and have had for 30 years. Thought I would take the plunge and get the older model to see how it works.
Tried it in the yard and loved how easy it was to light, quickly it boiled water, and how compact it was. Just wish the pot was bigger with a lid stored somewhere.
Great stove. I've had several since buying my first…
Source: bought it new
- Everything except its inability to simmer
- Inability to simmer
I've had several since buying my first one in 1974. The only problem I've had is the rubber gasket inside the cap drying out. Since I've discovered that defect, I've (so far) remedied it by using a Qtip to coat the gasket with vaseline about twice a year.
The stove can set up in a minute. I use a funnel to add fuel. Watch out for overflowing fuel.
I prime my stove with Coughlan's fire paste.
The only drawback is that the stove appears to have only one setting. I can turn the flame down a little bit but not much.
My meals are very simple. I only use it to boil water and it seems to boil water as quickly as my kitchen stove at home.
I use a windscreen ALL the time.
I've never had a problem with stability but I use a Sigg cook kit I bought with my first stove. The stove and the Sigg cook kit are fairly stable but one MUST ALWAYS be careful.
The stove packs inside the Sigg cook kit which I put in a larger pot. All go in a stuff sack which fits into the top compartment of my external frame pack. I am able to pack a fold-up strainer, small box of waterproof matches, lighter, pot gripper, eye dropper (which I used to remove fuel from the stove to place at the base to prime it before I discovered the fire paste) small sponge wipe in a zip loc bag and 1 ounce container of CampSuds in with the stove.
The advertising line by that scotch whiskey, "the good things never change", describes this stove. I wish they were cheaper and more widely available.
This stove is timeless. There are hundreds of reviews…
Source: received it as a personal gift (Dad bought it for me 30 years ago)
This stove is timeless. There are hundreds of reviews over many forums and throughout the ages. This stove keeps on shining.
I would sacrifice a few ounces for reliability over the 30 years I have had mine. My Dad's is now in my son's hands. Dad's is now 35 years old. Only thing I have ever had to do is replace some washers.
I bought this stove in 1974 for $50. That was a lot…
Price Paid: $50
I bought this stove in 1974 for $50. That was a lot back then. But well worth the price.
I would say this is the most important part of my hiking/pack packing adventures. It not only makes a great cook stove but can warm up and dry out a tent in very short time. I was on a 7-day trip. It rained for three days. I would fire this little wonder up and in no time my tent was dry and warm.
Make sure you have good ventilation when using in your tent. When I got divorced a few years ago, I made sure I took my Svea with me! Had it since I was a kid.
I can't say enough about this stove....what are you waiting for? Go get one or two! They're the best!
SVEA 123R Rocks. Mine has been through thick and thin…
Price Paid: $65 back in 1976
SVEA 123R Rocks. Mine has been through thick and thin for over 30 years and still starts first time.
Best comment would be hiking the Grand Canyon someone unfamiliar with how the thing starts panicked and thru sand on it to distinguish the flame which it did. Much to everyone's delight we shock it off blew on it rubbed it like a jennies lamp and POOF started first match.
Rain or shine thick or thin SVEA 123's are Awesome.
Simple, cool, classic, and it can simmer like a champ.
Price Paid: $85
Simple, cool, classic, and it can simmer like a champ. I use the Snow Peak titanium cup instead of the provided aluminum one, as the Snow Peak one slides right over the stove perfectly.
Great little stove that lasted forever, until I added…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: don't remember
Great little stove that lasted forever, until I added a windscreen and overpressurized it!
- adjustable flame
I loved this stove and it worked pretty well for about 20 years -- very reliable. That is until a recent trip to Yellowstone. A friend had a spare windscreen and I placed it around the 123 and started cooking. After about 30 minutes we heard a loud popping noise and the stove became unstable. Apparently the fuel tank had overpressurized and popped out from the bottom.
Luckily the stove did not explode but is forever ruined, as the bottom will not pop back in. I talked to Optimus about this and they told me I was out of luck. I can only think that it was the windscreen that caused this stove to overheat so I would recommend neve using one with the 123.
They offered me a discount on a new one but honestly it is too heavy compared with other stoves on the market now.
Update: April 19, 2012
I bought my Svea 123 back in the late '80s and used it for backpacking for 25 years. Only once did I need some jet/needle adjustment that someone at REI provided for free.
I primed it in one of two ways
- hold a piece of burning paper underneath the stove to warm the fuel, or
- pour some fuel in the little cup and light it.
Unfortunately, this stove died because it overpressured and the entire fuel tank popped out on the bottom. A friend gave me a windscreen and I was frying some fish when I heard a loud pop. The fuel tank had expanded and there was no fix.
Luckily the stove did not explode. The stove just got too hot — so don't ever use a windscreen with it. I was bummed to lose the old friend.
I have had an Optimus svea 123 with the Sigg Tourist…
Price Paid: $100
I have had an Optimus svea 123 with the Sigg Tourist cookkit since 1977. It was a gift. I have NEVER been able to get it to work right. Nor have others. So it may be valuable to someone for parts. Let me know.
I bought this in 1964 for $9.95 and it was expensive…
Price Paid: $9.95
I bought this in 1964 for $9.95 and it was expensive then. It has served me well and I bought several others for use for trips that I have guided.
Problem...I can't find a replacement fuel wick. Any suggestions???
Oh, my. It's simple, beautiful, and utterly reliable.
Oh, my. It's simple, beautiful, and utterly reliable. Burns almost anything. When's the last time you could call a stove elegant? It's exciting to overprime when lighting it (if you have one you know what I mean--heh heh) and fun to listen to (has a roarer-type burner, and a distinctive one at that). Takes about 1 minute to set up and light. Look around other gear review sites and you'll see that Svea 123s have an almost cult-like following. Get one and it'll still be around 50 years from now for your grandkids.
I purchased my 1st SVEA 123 in early 80s. Can't remember…
Price Paid: ~$80
I purchased my 1st SVEA 123 in early 80s. Can't remember the price. It is still going strong. After 25 years of use never failed once; Can't say enough about this stove.
Simple design, reliable, easy to light, clean up, maintenance, in any conditions. Have tried a variety of liquid and canister stoves and always keep coming back the my Svea.
Hard to find these days and the price tag is up to $80, but so are most stoves now. Not sure how long these will be sold, so I recently bought a second for the next 25 years: http://www.packstoves.com/index.htm
Does anybody knows were to purchase the Sigg Tourist set? Mine still works fine, but is getting a bit dinged.
Most of the hikers/climbers I met seem to feel very positive about this piece of equipment.
This is one of those products that just will not quit.
This is one of those products that just will not quit. I bought mine in the mid '80s and just returned from a backpacking trip to Mt. Whitney where the stove preformed as well as it did back then. Nothing has ever gone wrong with this stove.
I painted the original pot that was included with bar-b-que paint when I first purchased it and it is still in great shape. When I first bought it there were alot of "lightweight" stoves just starting to come out and after using it once or twice, I thought it was maybe too heavy, too this, too that, but as time passed, I realized that it is reliable and long-lived because of the weight and simplness of the stove. There is not a bunch of setting-up or unfolding to do in order to get to your fire. I am very impressed by simple design that works well.
I sometimes want to go out just to be able to enjoy this stove. I have tents, boots and backpacks that I enjoy for that same simple design reason. I don't know if they make a product that is this simple and works this well today. Worth finding a used one and paying whatever they want for it.
The best backpacking stove ever made. I have had mine…
Price Paid: $50
The best backpacking stove ever made. I have had mine for more than 25 years. It has never failed me. It's been everywhere in all kinds of conditions and I have always had a hot meal. Trouble free, simple, compact and tough.
It is the only backpacking gear that I have never replaced. I have never replaced any parts or had to do any maintenance to it. It was stored once for a couple of years. I bought it back out and it fired up in seconds, no problems.
I can't imagine going on any trip without it. I would choose this stove again without even thinking twice. It is still available at A & H Packstoves in Tustin, California for $80. You can find them on the web at www.packstoves.com.
Now a discontinued model (but still available if you…
Price Paid: $25
Now a discontinued model (but still available if you shop around), this is perhaps the greatest all round stove ever made. They just keep on working, year after year. Go get one while you can.
Simple, brilliant, and now very hard to find!!!! I…
Price Paid: $20
Simple, brilliant, and now very hard to find!!!! I have had my STOVE for 20 years++ and used it more than I thought it would last!! I still have the replacement kit in the plastic. A little bit of cleaning and care when using. Simply the best stove ever made. If you can find one buy it, you'll never regret it... EVER!!!
Best stove ever made. Period.
Price Paid: Don't remember
Best stove ever made. Period.
This is a good stove and the design has been around…
This is a good stove and the design has been around for 100 years, but let's face it there are much better choices out there today!
- Reliable and Durable. I've had mine 30 years and with minimal maintenance it works just as good as it did when it was new.
- Inexpensive. You can find this stove for under $80 on the net.
- Built in wind screen. Much nicer than the roll up aluminum screens.
- Heavy. Stove is 4-6 ounces heavier than competitors. Not much maybe but those ounces add up fast!
- Slow boil times. Stove took 3:30 to boil one cup of water. That was 75% longer than my MSR. I don't know about you but I don't want to carry 75% more fuel around especially on a multi-day hike! That kicks the stove's weight penalty up to 2 pounds or more for a week long hike.
The Bottom Line:
Great stove if you want a piece of hiking history, but if weight and efficiency mean anything to you then get something else.
This stove and similar were rendered obsolete and…
This stove and similar were rendered obsolete and retired along time ago for good reasons.
- fuel tank under the burner head represents a hazard
This stove and others very similar to it with provisions for pressurizing the fuel tank were deemed so dangerous by MSR that it was the major incentive to develop the XGK. A larger pot or prolonged use would cause the fuel tank under the burner head to overheat. In the case of the pressurized versions the result would be an ignited flame front into the user's face.
While the 123 does not have a pressurized tank there were seam failures and injuries reported. I would strongly suggest retirement for your stove.