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Posted by Tom D on September 15, 2006 at 3:51:49 pm EDT
In reply to Re: This might be a stupid question but.... posted by alan on September 15, 2006 at 12:45:53 pm EDT

I belong to a lightweight backpacking forum, so even though I don't consider myself a UL backpacker, I am familiar with a lot of the gear and techniques they use. It's a whole different mind set.

For 3 season trips-winter is whole different story-UL means lightweight internal frame or frameless packs that weigh as little as 1 or 2 lbs; ultralight cook kit-often a one or two titanium pots with a very small canister stove or Pepsi can alcohol stove that weighs a few oz at the most; UL bags (some are 1 lb.) or even quilts; trail runners instead of boots; UL clothes; minimal accessories and safety gear-very light headlamps, tiny compasses, minimal first aid supplies;freeze dried food and a tarp shelter that weighs less than a lb. Some UL one or two person tents offer full protection for around 2 lbs. or less.

Even though I'm not a UL person, around 45 lbs for a couple of days sounds high to me-that's only a few pounds less than what I carried in winter, including a bear canister, big pack, snow shovel, extra clothes-parka, fleece, outer shells, etc., extra pad, overbag, canister stove and so on. For a summer weekend trip in SoCal, I had far less than that-maybe 25 lbs. at most.

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