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Posted by SteveTheFolkie on June 29, 2007 at 9:58:43 am EDT
In reply to E-85 posted by Blackbeard on June 13, 2007 at 6:21:32 am EDT

One thing we should keep in mind with fossil fuels - we're not "creating" carbon - we're releasing it it back into the atmosphere. Those carbon atoms, out of circulation for millions of years, aren't "new" - they're just being set free!

Al Gore - if he's an environmentalists then Pol Pot was a great humanitarian. You cannot buy your way green - you're either releasing C02 into the atmosphere or you're not. Now - it IS a nice thing to plant a bunch of trees - but I don't buy into this "carbon offset credit" line of - well - this is a "G" rated forum - so - garbage.

Convincing people to not do stuff like drive to the store for a soda (a 20 oz bottle of soda), not to drive to the local cafe for a cup of coffee, not to make thirty trips when you can combine them into one or two - those lessons are simple, easy to absorb and make a big difference. Purchasing low consumption appliances can make a big difference, including not buying a huge 'fridge when a smaller one will do just fine. There's a load of small things we can do - recycling among them - that help to reduce our individual consumption with little if any real personal sacrifice -

As for fuel consumption - I agree - people will pay whatever they have to to drive their own personal vehicles. Tighter emissions standards and enforcement can be used to get older low mileage vehicles off the roads - but few if any in congress have the courage to take on that battle. It would be nice, however, if the domestic car companies offered small high quality vehicles. I recently drove a small chevy (an Aveo, I think) while my '85 Saab was getting some chassis welding done - now it matched my Saab on gas mileage (around 33-35MPG on my commute) - but I felt like I was sitting in a teabag tin - with less than a thousand miles on it the Aveo had more rattles than my 250,000+ mile Saab - that's pathetic. High quality small cars will attract buyers - tin can crappy cars will not - when's Detroit going to get that message?

Off the soapbox - have some real actual work to do -

Steve

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