Caldera Cone vs. Clikstand Alcohol Stove Tests

11:42 p.m. on October 3, 2011 (EDT)
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There's a lot of talk about alcohol stoves and how great they are in terms of being light weight.   Alcohol stoves though are super vulnerable to wind.   I'm interested in integrated alcohol stove systems where the windscreen and stove are designed to work together.   Micky mousing something together hasn't worked well for me.

I thought I'd take a couple of alcohol stoves systems, run them side by side, and see what I might see.

So, this past Saturday, I took a Clikstand and a Caldera Cone over to a friend's for a little stove testing.
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If you're interested in my findings you can read about them on my blog Adventures In Stoving -- Caldera Cone vs. Clikstand Alcohol Stove Tests.

HJ

5:21 p.m. on October 4, 2011 (EDT)
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Good article.  I've always had to use a windscreen of some kind with any of the alky stoves I've used.  Jim, how much did the clickstand weigh?

1:38 a.m. on October 5, 2011 (EDT)
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The Clikstand weighs 3.3 oz.  I don't have a Clikstand brand windscreen, but it would weigh 1.3 oz if I did.  I have a BPL titanium windscreen that weighs 0.9 oz.  

The Trangia burner weighs 67g/2.4 oz, the burner lid weighs an add'l 21g/0.7 oz.  The simmer ring weighs another 23g/0.8 oz.  The whole ensemble is 3.9 oz.

If you got a Clikstand + their windscreen + the burner, you'd have a total of 8.5 oz.  They do offer titanium versions of everything (the burner doesn't have a lid or simmer ring though) which are quite a bit lighter.

HJ

9:11 a.m. on October 5, 2011 (EDT)
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Alright.  Thanks Jim.

11:37 a.m. on October 5, 2011 (EDT)
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The Clikstand with Trangia burner set up is a little heavy (240g/8.5 oz total) for an alcohol stove, but it is flexible.  I think I mentioned it in the blog, but I've been able to cook eggs on the Clikstand which I don't think I could do on the Caldera Cone with 10-12 stove set up.

By contrast, the Caldera Cone weighs 34g and the 10-12 stove weighs 16g for a total of 50g (only about 1.75 oz!).

HJ

3:36 p.m. on October 5, 2011 (EDT)
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Some stats for those who may be interested:

Clikstand with Trangia Burner
Clikstand S-2: 94g/3.3oz
Windscreen S-2: 37g/1.3oz (note: In my testing I used a BPL Ti windscreen, 25g/0.9oz)
Trangia Burner: 67g/2.4oz
Trangia Burner Lid: 21g/0.7 oz
Trangia Burner Simmer Ring: 23g/0.8oz
Total Trangia Burner Weight: 112g/4.0oz
Grand Total: The Clikstand with Trangia burner set up is 242g/8.5 oz total, including windscreen, burner lid, and simmer ring.

Note: The above weights are taken from the Clikstand.com website. SNOWGOOSE in Scotland wrote and gave me the actual weights for his Clikstand set up. His weights are a gram or two heavier in several cases. His total weight was 247g/8.7oz.

The Caldera Cone with 10-12 stove
Caldera Cone: 34g/1.2oz
10-12 stove: 16g/0.6oz
Grand Total: The Caldera Cone with 10-12 stove is 50g/1.75 oz

Note: The above weights are actual weights. The weight of a particular cone may vary depending on what type of pot it is designed for, the type of cone, and the material from which the cone is made (Ti or Al).

The Clikstand with Trangia burner is approximately five times heavier than the Caldera Cone with 10-12 stove.

HJ

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