Re: clove hitch for tie in's

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Bill: You are correct. I am talking about a tie in to a power point or anchor point.

I had seen it in Freedom of the Hills and not in Bruce Smiths On Rope. I had been climbing for 20 years, TRing, sport and trad and until my senneca trip, I havent really seen a lot of climbers use a hitch for a tie in point. I wouldnt really call it a standard. I did take a class with Craig when he was with Adam Fox and I didnt use a clove hitch for anything in his class. From my experiance, a clove hitch is a Boy Scout knot used for lashings. It seems to me that the hitch could "cycle" back and forth and become loose, where as a knot such as a yosemite bowline or figure 8 is unlikely to come loose during cycling of the rope. And where is the back up knot on a clove hitch. Even my munter has a back up for a tie in.

Why would you want to convert a tie in point into a munter hitch? If you would be using a tie in point as a safety lowering tie in (such as taking beginners and they need lowered off) why not use a munter mule?

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