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Posted by FMD on June 12, 2007 at 2:17:57 pm EDT
In reply to clove hitch for tie in's posted by FMD on June 8, 2007 at 11:24:32 am EDT

Bill: I agree with you that a mule knot can be used on many different devices. But when you tie the mule knot to the sticht plates and tube device, the rope should be ran under the ATC or Sticht plate to "lock" the rope down and then bring the rope up to tie a mule knot along with its approriate back up. What I was mentioning on my last post was on step # 2, it didnt mentioned to lock off the device. It just said to place a mule knot w/back up on belay device on the belay rope. Of course this is IF you are not belaying with a munter. Step #2 mentions belay device, so I am assumming that you are belaying with something other than a munter.

I dont own a figure eight personally. Too heavy, too slick. I prefer the reverso and ATC guides when I am trad climbing. They are light, easy to use and are auto locking. When I am at our local crag for TRing, I use a munter to belay.

I personally dont use ascenders and grigri's for belaying for these are more of a static device and its prefered to use something more of a dynamic to belay. I see people quite a bit using grigri's belaying on trad climbs, but personally, I would stick to a grigri on Tring only and only with a experianced belayer to ensure there is little slack.

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