numb toes

2:28 p.m. on January 23, 2002 (EST)
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I found a thread on numb toes here but it was 2 years old and it no longer shows up...

I've had numb toes since climing Pico on new years eve 01
in regular hiking leather hiking boots. It was pretty darn cold (all water even inside of packs froze). It was less than a 6 hour climb up to the top but my toes got numb about 3 hours into it and i haven't felt them since. They've gotten a bit numb on other climbs but always came back on the decent.

I heard of a case of numb toes from a guy who ran the Leadville 100 where this never went away. Does anyone know of anyone else where the condition never went away? Also, has anyone found that their toes are really sensitive to cold even though the toes are numb? Anyone know of any drugs that can help alleviate the condition. I have a foot massager and I'm not sure if it's helping or not.

Thanks for any info. I'd sure like to feel my toes again!
Carol
capp@jps.net

5:31 p.m. on January 23, 2002 (EST)
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Hi, Carol:

Welcome to the club! I had cold and numb toes at 11,000 feet. It took 50 minutes of massaging before they felt warm. However, my big toes stayed numb for two weeks.

A podiatrist told an officemate about... a nerve that goes to first three toes that could get compressed.

The same podiatrist told me it could be an early stage of frostbite.

Tight boots might cause numbness. But then again, it could be our circulation. In my case:

1) Once my toes got cold at San Diego's Wild Animal Park, while others did not have a problem.

2) Occasionally I feel the same numb sensation even with Teva's on.

I'm also researching. Please what you find.

Please see more details in email I sent you.

Regards,

Ray Deza
San Diego, CA

Quote:

I found a thread on numb toes here but it was 2 years old and it no longer shows up...

I've had numb toes since climing Pico on new years eve 01
in regular hiking leather hiking boots. It was pretty darn cold (all water even inside of packs froze). It was less than a 6 hour climb up to the top but my toes got numb about 3 hours into it and i haven't felt them since. They've gotten a bit numb on other climbs but always came back on the decent.

I heard of a case of numb toes from a guy who ran the Leadville 100 where this never went away. Does anyone know of anyone else where the condition never went away? Also, has anyone found that their toes are really sensitive to cold even though the toes are numb? Anyone know of any drugs that can help alleviate the condition. I have a foot massager and I'm not sure if it's helping or not.

Thanks for any info. I'd sure like to feel my toes again!
Carol
capp@jps.net

8:23 p.m. on January 23, 2002 (EST)
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Give 'em a couple weeks...

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I've had numb toes since climing Pico on new years eve 01
in regular hiking leather hiking boots. It was pretty darn cold (all water even inside of packs froze). It was less than a 6 hour climb up to the top but my toes got numb about 3 hours into it and i haven't felt them since. They've gotten a bit numb on other climbs but always came back on the decent.

Cold damage to yer nerves. Might take up to six weeks I'm guessin' to hook 'em back up again...

I had similar after a cold forced bivy once...took around 2 months for the numbness to pass. Now they hurt just like normal...! No lasting damage as far as I can tell. Still smell the same too...

Brian in SLC

5:02 p.m. on January 27, 2002 (EST)
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a.k.a. Kevin Rooney

I've had similar experiences re:cold toes, and had little/no sensation in them for a couple of weeks, and they hurt like hell too! Technically, not a clinical case of frostbite, but nearly so.

As others have said, you probably have some nerve damage and it may take awhile for the nerves to regenerate. Once this nerve damage occurs, your feet may be more susceptible to cold and possible frostbite for several years to come. Not a pleasant thought, but something to be watchful of.

 


Quote:

I found a thread on numb toes here but it was 2 years old and it no longer shows up...

I've had numb toes since climing Pico on new years eve 01
in regular hiking leather hiking boots. It was pretty darn cold (all water even inside of packs froze). It was less than a 6 hour climb up to the top but my toes got numb about 3 hours into it and i haven't felt them since. They've gotten a bit numb on other climbs but always came back on the decent.

I heard of a case of numb toes from a guy who ran the Leadville 100 where this never went away. Does anyone know of anyone else where the condition never went away? Also, has anyone found that their toes are really sensitive to cold even though the toes are numb? Anyone know of any drugs that can help alleviate the condition. I have a foot massager and I'm not sure if it's helping or not.

Thanks for any info. I'd sure like to feel my toes again!
Carol
capp@jps.net

6:54 p.m. on January 27, 2002 (EST)
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Thanks much for the reassurance that my toes will come back to life. I am starting to get some 'pins and needles' sensations when i get up in the morning which i think is a good sign. I suspect my fingers were a bit affected also since my tips are a bit numb but it's not as noticable but boy they are really sensitive to cold! i hope that 1 sacramento summer will cure all my ails. Now to go out and shop for some real mountineering boots....

Happy trails.
Carol

 

 

Quote:

I found a thread on numb toes here but it was 2 years old and it no longer shows up...

I've had numb toes since climing Pico on new years eve 01
in regular hiking leather hiking boots. It was pretty darn cold (all water even inside of packs froze). It was less than a 6 hour climb up to the top but my toes got numb about 3 hours into it and i haven't felt them since. They've gotten a bit numb on other climbs but always came back on the decent.

I heard of a case of numb toes from a guy who ran the Leadville 100 where this never went away. Does anyone know of anyone else where the condition never went away? Also, has anyone found that their toes are really sensitive to cold even though the toes are numb? Anyone know of any drugs that can help alleviate the condition. I have a foot massager and I'm not sure if it's helping or not.

Thanks for any info. I'd sure like to feel my toes again!
Carol
capp@jps.net

4:41 a.m. on January 30, 2002 (EST)
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Numb toes still there or getting better? (Just curious) Yes, I can add another (late) "me too" experience... took a few weeks to get better after four days of climbing last winter. No long term effects either... all seems fine now and they still hurt when I jump on them with crampons on the other foot.

I've not had the same thing since. No idea why it should have happened that time and not any other. It wasn't a 'special' trip in any way as far as my toes or boots were concerned.

Alan.

5:12 p.m. on January 31, 2002 (EST)
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Yes, there are getting a bit better and it's been 1 month and 3 days since summit day. The little toes are back but the first 2 still feel like plastic. Since it looks like it's due poor circulation is it possible that you wore different socks on that particular trip or tied your boots tighter? Since my fingers took a bit of a hit too I am pretty sure the reason i got them was cause it was so darn cold.

happy trails!
Carol

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Numb toes still there or getting better? (Just curious) Yes, I can add another (late) "me too" experience... took a few weeks to get better after four days of climbing last winter. No long term effects either... all seems fine now and they still hurt when I jump on them with crampons on the other foot.

I've not had the same thing since. No idea why it should have happened that time and not any other. It wasn't a 'special' trip in any way as far as my toes or boots were concerned.

Alan.

5:58 a.m. on February 26, 2002 (EST)
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When I was army there was about ten guys in our room, and many of us had numb toes. No feeling at all. I think it was due to our tight and hard military boots with no cushion. And lot of running in those with a lot of weight and equipment. I lost feeling also in summertime, so cold is not only option. So i believe it has something to do with nerves. Yes, we had training also at wintertime below 20c', but for me this didn't made any difference. So, I think it is quite common to have numb toes for a half year. Since I left army and returned to normal life, I have got back feel in my toes.

2:59 p.m. on April 8, 2002 (EDT)
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a.k.a. Chris

I posted a question about this to rec.climbing a while got and got some useful info. Go to google.com, click on groups and type in the search term "boots causing nerve damage" WITH the quotation marks.

This link may also work:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22boots+causing+nerve+damage%22&hl=en&selm=9f7gnk%24uik%241%40slb7.atl.mindspring.net&rnum=1

One of the more useful responses was from Sue, a medical doctor...

Quote:

I found a thread on numb toes here but it was 2 years old and it no longer shows up...

I've had numb toes since climing Pico on new years eve 01
in regular hiking leather hiking boots. It was pretty darn cold (all water even inside of packs froze). It was less than a 6 hour climb up to the top but my toes got numb about 3 hours into it and i haven't felt them since. They've gotten a bit numb on other climbs but always came back on the decent.

I heard of a case of numb toes from a guy who ran the Leadville 100 where this never went away. Does anyone know of anyone else where the condition never went away? Also, has anyone found that their toes are really sensitive to cold even though the toes are numb? Anyone know of any drugs that can help alleviate the condition. I have a foot massager and I'm not sure if it's helping or not.

Thanks for any info. I'd sure like to feel my toes again!
Carol
capp@jps.net

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