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I’m looking at purchasing a hot tent to use for winter camping mostly in northern mn, and michagan’s upper peninsula. I’ve skied and snowshoe’d extensively in these areas with double wall 4 season tents and single wall tents for fast and light trips. One issue we have is the fact that in december and january nights are long and it is frequenty too cold for a campfire to be practical which ends up translating to spending a large portion of our time sleeping. In addition it is always more difficult to get people to join us on winter trips.
I’m thinking a hot tent may solve both of our problems by giving us a relatively warm area to spend the long night as well as making it easier to bring others on winter camping trips. The long term goal is to be able to take our kids winter camping which would be difficult with our current tent system. We don’t have kids yet but I’m hoping that when we do a hot tent will allow us to take them out in the winter at a younger age than would otherwise be feasible.
I’m looking for recommendations on what tent would fit our needs best.
I would likely only use the tent for trips where we are skiing or snowshoeing in and making a base camp rather than trips where we are moving everyday and still continue to use a more traditional tent for more mobile trips when we want to travel lighter. I’d still like the tent to be light enough to transport up to 10 miles although in most cases 1 to 3 miles would be more typical
Looking for a tent/stove combination that is roughly 12 lbs or less (would be wiling to go to 15 lbs max if need be). Would like to very comfortably fit 4 with room to easily stand inside. I’m thinking an 8 man version would probably be an ideal balance of size and weight but I’m open to suggestions.
We plan to use the tent in temperatures down to -40 or colder. The hope is that whatever stove we choose will be able to warm the inside of the tent to a temperature where you can be relatively comfortable inside at those temperatures while immobile but still fully dressed (down jacket and pants boots etc) but without having to crawl into the sleeping bag until the wood runs out. I’m not expecting it to be room temperature inside. If it was -30 outside and 40 inside I would be pretty happy.
- One big concern I have is ease of use at cold temperatures. I would be willing to take a bit of extra weight in order to have an easier to set up stove/ tent or larger stove that allowed a bigger variety of wood sizes. How easy are these tents and stoves to set up in very cold conditions?
I have a couple of other concerns listed below
- I also noticed that many stoves are elevated and seem like they would be really tippy unless the legs are pushed into the ground. How do I deal with this when the ground is frozen or would a different design be preferable other than an oval?
- How practical is it to set these tents up on frozen ground without snow to anchor into? I realize that I can tie off to bushes or a pack filled with rocks but this is time consuming and because most of the anchor points are at the bottom they would need to be extended dramatically which would mean a large gap between the wall and the ground.
- How practical is it to pitch one in soft powder? Most of our use will be in soft snow. Snow stakes or buried stuff sacks work well for normal tents because they receive a mostly horizontal pull but all of the hot tents I’ve seen mostly anchor at the bottom meaning stakes get mostly an upward pull. In deep snow this would be doable especialy if the snow has ample time to set before tensioning the stake but I have some concerns about this in shallower snow even if the snow is shoveled into piles on top of the stakes.
I realize that none of the hot tents that fit the weight and size criteria are freestanding but something that can stand with less anchoring when anchoring conditions are difficult would be preferable, especially given the hazard of a stove running inside.