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Posted by Tom D on December 3, 2007 at 10:12:51 pm EST
In reply to Trip Report #3 Winter Camping posted by BigSmoke on November 27, 2007 at 12:44:26 am EST

(I deleted your extra post-the one that said "ignore this one).

Your pics are very good. That area is really wild from the looks of it. It does look pretty cold. Did you see the bear and the goats on the same trip?

As far as gear, it sounds like you learned a lot. I did the same thing with snow camping, except I was a few miles from my car (maybe 2 hours on foot) testing out my gear. What I learned, I used the next time.

Needless to say, you now know to never touch a hot stove-they will cool off in a few minutes after you shut them off.

As far as layering, there are so many different shells, softshell jackets, fleeces, insulated jackets, insulated pants, rain gear, base layers and whatnot that you can go blind looking at all of them.

I have a very simple layering system; some people have one of everything for all kinds of conditions, but I just have a few things. Not sure I have posted this here before (I have elsewhere), but here is what I have and some alternatives -
Base Layer -Patagonia Capilene midweight long sleeve top and bottoms (Merino wool, REI synthetic, silk, etc.);

Mid layer -lightweight Columbia fleece jacket (any other decent fleece jacket, there are dozens of them);

Outer layer - REI Elements rain jacket, Marmot Precip full zip rain pants (they make a jacket too, which I don't have (any other light set of rain gear);

Insulated layers for cold weather - TNF Nuptse down parka, TNF Baltoro (now called Himalayan) parka for really cold (sub zero) weather, GoLite insulated full zip pants;

Several pairs of mitts and gloves including liner gloves, fleece beanie, balaclava, Patagonia, Smartwool, and Thorlo socks.

All of this will keep me warm and dry in almost all conditions.

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