Recreation Before Responsibility Nylon RipStop Vest

3 reviews
5-star:   1
4-star:   2
3-star:   0
2-star:   0
1-star:   0

Reviews

8

A basic, very functional vest from a very unique company.

Rating: rated 4.5 of 5 stars
Source: received for testing via the Trailspace Review Corps (Sample provided by Recreation Before Responsibility for testing and review)

Summary

A basic, very functional vest from a very unique company.

Pros

  • Made off grid in the US
  • Excellent craftsmanship
  • Lightweight
  • Resists snags and rips very well
  • Breathable
  • Good DWR finish
  • Packable

Cons

  • Zippers pulls are short
  • Chest pocket is inside the outer zipper

I admire old school, low tech ways to get things done. However, I also admire hi tech fabrics and technologies. I also wish more of our stuff was made responsibly in the U.S. It seems like these sentiments came together in the Recreation Before Responsibility Ripstop Vest. This vest combines Primaloft One insulation with a DWR treated down proof shell made off the electrical grid by Amish crafts people in Iowa on sewing machines that use no electricity. 

Coming from a Mennonite heritage myself that I can trace back to within a few years of the Reformation I must admit that this concept interested me on several levels. Who are the Mennonites? They were the radicals of the Protestant Reformation. We see them as very conservative by today’s standards, but back in the 16th Century they were the wild men of the religious world. But I digress.

This vest came with with a personal note from the manufacturer commissioning me to give the vest a very thorough trial. 

With these instructions I gladly embarked on a hike to my favorite local wild place. 


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Hiking through the sage in 20-ish degrees. Lots of bushwhacking through stiff sagebrush and rabbit brush.

Fit

I am 5' 10" and 220 lbs.  I have a 45-inch chest. I ordered the Extra Large to be an outer layer over my base and possibly insulating layer and it is still a tad big, yet manageable. I would have been better off with the size Large. The vest shape is pretty boxy and not fitted so keep this in mind when ordering. The armpits have nice elastic sections that help seal in your heat. The tail of the vest is cut to keep your rear covered.  I appreciate this feature a lot. 

Workmanship

The seamstress who made my vest personally wrote her name on the inside tag and I must say, Frau Kaufmann did a fine job making this vest (vielen dank Frau K, wenn Sie dies lesen). There is not a single stitch astray and no IPs (loose threads) anywhere to be found.  The craftsmanship is every bit as good as you would expect for a personal, custom made vest from a skilled maker. 


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Cool

Material

The down-proof rip-stop outer layer has a slight sheen to it and feels gossamer thin but after a long morning of dragging dead sagebrush together to make a shelter there wasn’t a single rip or snag in the material, only dirt from my work. I didn’t baby this vest and fully expected to have a good look at its innards after this job.  I was pleasantly surprised.

It was snowing lightly this day so I also got to see the DWR finish which adequately beaded up the melted snow. There is a soft material around the neck that is comfortable against bare skin when this vest is zipped up all the way. The zippers are high quality as you would expect.  


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Just unpacked from its pocket


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Makes a nice pillow, I like the sturdy hanging loop too.


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Soft Collar lining


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There's a zipper tab in there someplace!

Features

I wish the chest pocket was accessible from the outside of the vest, having to open your vest to get at your sunscreen, lip balm, or whatever is a pet peeve of mine. The pockets are where you’d expect them and adequately sized.

To reach the tiny zipper tabs that close the pockets you must remove your gloves and search the deep fold where the black-on-black tabs are located. I know this feature is to protect the contents of the pocket from weather, but it frustrated me. In the future, zipper pulls need to be installed to make this easier. Yes, I could make my own.


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Elastic around armpits


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I prefer the chest pocket on the outside.


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It took me an hour or so to drag all this sage together to make a debris shelter from the fine, wind-driven snow.  The pic doesn't show it well but the pile was about 10' tall and 20' in diameter with a little nest inside where I slept. It kinda worked. The vest had ZERO damage though my pants took a beating. This area is open range and severely grazed, I always camp LNT in more sensitive areas.

Warmth

For the first trip I wore this vest on it was approximately 20 degrees F and I wore the RBR vest over my wool shirt as I hiked in perfect warmth and had no sweat buildup issues with the vest.  The Primaloft One insulation is a great material to keep you warm while letting you breathe. When I stopped moving I layered the vest over a light hoodie which really increased the usability range of that light jacket.  The other way I wear it is over a wool sweater while fishing, it protects me from splashes and is nice and warm. Imagine your favorite fleece vest but wind and water resistant.


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Worn over a hooded jacket

Style

This basic black vest might lack the fancy styling, form fitting and stitching methods we see in other similar garments, but to me a vest is a basic item, like a beanie, that does not require such things. The RBR vest is plain and boxy (I am sure the plainness would appeal to my ancestors).

Who Should Buy This

Not everyone likes vests. I do and see them as an important part of my kit. If you need a light insulating layer that retains the mobility of your arms and you appreciate quality and conscientious manufacturing do try the RBR vest. If you don’t mind adding your own zipper pills you will be pleased with this garment. 

Conclusion

I am always happy to learn about small companies trying to do the right thing to make us cool stuff. This is an excellent example of those goals and is also a solid performer. My hope is that this company, with its feckless name, continues to turn out quality for people who enjoy the idea of wearing quality clothing that is responsibly made. Stay tuned for more beta as I continue to test this vest!

Jeff

Sean Van Cleve GUIDE/OUTFITTER

Great review, Thanks!


7 months ago
denis daly

jeff how small can you get it to pack down? I live in a area with lots of mennonite's..Great farmers and craftmen..


7 months ago
G00SE MODERATOR

Nice review, Jeff! You know my love for cottage industry gear manufacturers, but the price is really high for a vest.


7 months ago
denis daly

pretty Funny Goose...A Patagucci Nano puff costs 169 and the company stock holders get the profit...It seems that the whole community actually gets something if you buy then vest..


7 months ago
FromSagetoSnow

DD, it gets about as small as a VHS cassette and 2x the thickness, if anyone still remembers what those are. Well Goose buddy I don't know how often I'd shell out that kind of $$ for a vest but DD has a good point.


7 months ago
Alicia TRAILSPACE STAFF

Super interesting company. Thanks for testing and reviewing this, Jeff. I love the handsigned label.


7 months ago
G00SE MODERATOR

I guess I don't shop vests all that much. When I buy clothes, I shop sales and closeouts. A year ago, I bought a Stoic Down Cardigan for around $130 on sale (normally $200-ish). A few months later, I bought a JC Penny 650 Down Fill jacket for $30 (could have got it for $15, if I didn't want "Tall"). It is so much better than the Stoic!


7 months ago
Joseph Renow

Great review Sage! We have mostly Amish here in Indiana...but Mennonites have remained quite radical through the years...particularly in regards to their anti-war positions and collective civil disobedience. As far as the vest goes...as a lover of Primaloft One I caution against compressing it too much (a little compression doesn't hurt anything)...as Primaloft One recovers from compression worse than other forms of insulation...of course it is the most like down in terms of weight to warmth...and absorbs very little moisture!


7 months ago
Ashleigh MODERATOR

Great review, Sage! It looks like a really solid, quality piece of gear!


7 months ago
Seth Levy TRAILSPACE STAFF

Thanks for this great review Sage!


6 months ago
Bill "L.Dog" Garlinghouse

Sounds like a great vest from a wonderful cottage industry vendor. One question. What does it weigh?


6 months ago
FromSagetoSnow

I'd need a postal scale, its really light. It has 60g of primaloft but thats all I could find on their website.


6 months ago
0

First off, top notch materials, for the hardcore adventurers…

Rating: rated 4.5 of 5 stars
Source: bought it new

Summary

First off, top notch materials, for the hardcore adventurers to staying warm around the fire this is an amazing product. Great fit, function is well thought out, and tailored design meet fashionable and functional.

Pros

  • Top materials — no corners cut here
  • Lightweight and super warm
  • Packs into its own pocket

Cons

  • Zipper tabs are small

I have tried the jacket and vest, the thought in how the garment is made and assembled is really notable when you are on a long hike or lounging around and forget that you are wearing the garment. The longer tail in the back covers you when you move around and are not surprised by a cold gust when you least expect it.  

I really appreciate the craftsmanship and the fact that the jacket is made off the grid and completely assembled in the USA. You can tell it is made with compassion and care, with all the attention to every detail.

0

Although there are many choices in this modern world…

Rating: rated 5 of 5 stars
Source: bought it new

Summary

Although there are many choices in this modern world of high-tech outdoor gear, this vest makes my day, every day. While its fabric, materials, and construction details are top notch bomber, yes really, I am extremely stoked on the fact that everything is handcrafted in America using sustainable practices. They have figured it out and are doing it right on all levels. Go, RBR!

Pros

  • Performance material sourcing
  • Top quality construction
  • Handcrafted in america
  • Sustainable practices

Recreation Before Responsibility Nylon RipStop Vest

MSRP:
$150.00

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