I bought this tent last year for winter use. I've…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $900
I bought this tent last year for winter use. I've used it in the Adirondacks in down to -20°F (-29°C) nights.
- Self standing
- Solid in every sense
- Heavy, especially because I use it as a 1-person tent.
I will try not to mention too many of the things mentioned in the other reviews.
I bought the tent exclusively for winter use in the Northeast. So far four hikes this year. I haven't used it in storm conditions yet, but I've tried to wake up in 1 foot of very heavy new snow. The temperature was just around freezing and the snow was extra heavy because of the melting water. The tent stood fine although sagging a bit, especially closer to the ground/ the edges, because of the weight of the snow.
I woke up with the tent completely covered and I couldn't hear a sound. Then realized that the snow was blimping out all sounds. I shook the tent and the snow felt to the edges. Now I could hear that it was still snowing and the daylight penetrated the tent as well.
I'm overall happy with the Staika. It's heavy for 1 person and I wish it was longer so my sleeping bag wouldn't touch the inside of the tent. During the night with the heavy snowfall, the snow prevented the tent from airing out and there was some condensation on the inside of the tent. All my other nights, I haven't had any problems with condensation as long as I leave all the air-vents fully open. That means that the temperature inside the tent is the same as the outside temperature.
It's true that the top attachable mini-fly has to be de-attached and attached once the tent has been set. That takes extra time.
When setting up the tent, I've been digging out snow. Normally around a foot. I've used MSR snow stakes for the 6 outer guidelines and haven't used stakes for the 6 loops at the edge of the tent. Normally the snow has been too powderish and I haven't be able to get a hold with the stake going straight down anyway. The MSR snow stakes used for the outer guidelines are buried down dead man style and that has world good so far. Especially considering the foot tall wall around the tent.
On one outing I used the tent without the inner tent in order to save weight. That worked fine and I will do that at some of my future hikes again.
When putting up the tent, there are a lot of lines that have to be straightened out while placing the tent on the ground. Not a big deal and it only takes a minute but its important that the poles are not inserted with a line on the wrong side of the pole. Still, its very quick and easy to put up the tent.
I purchased the tent in 2013. The bathtub bottom is seam sealed but the corners that goes up on the side (6" or so) are not. I'm not worried as long as I'm only using the tent during the winter but I am going to seam seal the corners anyways. I think I would have been nice if they were sealed from the factory like the floor itself is. I haven't tried if water is penetrating.
I'm also considering purchasing the Hilleberg Nammatj 2 since its 3lb. lighter and I it looks like I don't have to use stakes at the hooks at the edge of the tent if I just dig it down in the snow on the sides and then use stakes for the outer guidelines and the front and the back. The Nammatj 2 would then be my 2-person tent in addition to the Staika and my Big Agnes Copper Spur 2. The Big Agnes is my lightweight 1-person summer/ fall tent for good weather (3lb 14oz).
The Nammatj 2 would be for hiking with someone else or when it's foul weather, and the Staika for solo or hiking or with someone else in the winter. Make sense, right :)
- shell, poles winter stakes = 5lb. 15oz.
- shell, poles, stakes, inner tent = 8lb 11oz.
- Outer shell 3lb 10oz
- Poles 1lb 15oz.
- Stakes 8oz.
- 6 MSR winter stakes 6oz.
- Ground tarp 1lb 1oz.
- Inner tent 2lb 10oz
To put it in simple terms, this is the best tent I've…
Design: Expedition Geodome - Suited for Summer as well
Ease of Setup: Very easy.
Weight: 8 pounds
Price Paid: Full Value from Petra
To put it in simple terms, this is the best tent I've ever seen for our needs. I have looked throughout the world at tent offerings, following even the faintest trails in search of an ideal shelter.
The only tent I found that could hold a candle to the Staika was the Allak; another Hilleberg tent and essentially the lightweight version of the Staika with a couple of design deviations.
Here are the attributes I've come to greatly appreciate, and have *only found together in the Hilleberg Staika*:
1) Very strong geodesic design. Utilizing 3 10mm poles of equal length.
2) *Completely* freestanding. It can be staked out (for really bad weather) but even the two vestibules are fully erected by the tent poles.
3) The entire tent goes up together. This keeps the inner tent dry even if the Staika is being erected in a downpour.
4) Long two-person inner tent body with two doors. 91" / 230cm long inner tent.
5) Fully adjustable venting through the tent body. Using no-seeum mesh/cloth panels that run overhead.
6) Plenty of storage area. Two large vestibules of equal size.
7) Venting right through the top of the tent body and rainfly, ***even in the rain***!
8) Directionally opposed doors allow for cross-flow circulation through the tent, regardless of if the wind is coming from the north, south, east or west. The lighter Allak lacks this feature, with both entries accessed from the same direction.
9) Incredible attention to detail and handmade by one person in Europe.
10) At under 8 pounds, the Staika is light given its size, heavy-duty construction and capabilities.
11) Great worldwide customer support by the family bearing the brand name themselves.
We've owned the Staika since the summer of 2006. This tent has traveled with us through Europe and remote Alaska. It's been heavily used in all kinds of pitch locations and weathered many storms. Equally at home in all four seasons. It seems to have a lifetime of use left in it and we have no complaints.
I've not been sponsored or been given a discount. I'd move onto something else if anything could beat the above list of design achievements. Not likely.
What makes an initial good impression is this tent's…
Design: Freestanding dome
Ease of Setup: Easy
Weight: 8 pounds
Price Paid: $600
What makes an initial good impression is this tent's free-standing quality and it's ability to be lifted and placed exactly where it needs to be for sleeping purposes. The 2 door vestibules are also part of the free-standing dome structure and therefore do not need to be staked out. As with nearly all Hillebergs, this tent has a suspended inner tent which is supported by the 3 poles clipped onto the outside of the silicone/Kerlon fly. Headroom is great and the interior space is perfect for one person. It is a big tent in some ways but in other ways it's total footprint is small and fits into most tent sites. The short pole sleeves and clip system is fast and strong.
The golden yellow inner tent canopy is one of my favorite things about the Hilleberg line of tents and I like the bright interiors on cloudy days like today. Another big plus is the 100 denier 3-coated floor which almost feels rubbery and you just know it'll keep out the snow and rain. WEIGHT: This one attribute(along with price)is the main reason this tent is not carried and used by more backpackers. I don't mind carrying an 8 pound tent, in my mind it is light when you look at what you're getting: A large 2 door, 2 vestibule strong 3-poled four season self-standing high tech dome tent with 36 cubic feet of living space. This tent is a well thought out piece of gear built by people who have improved it with years of evolution and next-generation additions. Unlike many tents I could mention, Hilleberg finds something that works and instead of discontinuing it, improves it.
Update: January 11, 2008
Here is a follow up report of the Hilleberg Staika after extensive use and many winter backpacking trips.
The main problem I found with this green dome 3 pole tent is the umbrella fly's attachment points. The fly connects to the tent using 6 plastic toggles which insert into 6 plastic rings, all beefy and strong. The toggle is connected to a short piece of webbing which is adjustable with a plastic ladder buckle. In warm weather this system works great, in ice-cold rain that freezes solid, this system is pitiful and nearly impossible to use.
The webbing freezes stiff so the ladder buckle won't allow adjustment, that's one problem. The other is that the webbing behind the toggle won't bend enough to let the toggle pass out of the ring. It's all one big complicated mess. And as far as I can tell, the umbrella fly must detach in order to remove the poles from their short bottom sleeves in the process of taking down the tent.
I emailed Hilleberg about this several weeks ago but have not gotten a reply. The only solution is to warm each point IN THE MOUTH to thaw enough to detach, or to use hot water in some way. I find such a problem to be ironic in a tent purported to be at home in the Arctic. I would be interested to see how the owners of other Hilleberg tents that use this system respond (Jannu/Saivo/Allak/Soulo).
Don't get me wrong, this is still a great tent and I'll continue to use it wholeheartedly as my main shelter.
Your grandchildren will be using this tent, it is…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $600
Your grandchildren will be using this tent, it is that well made. NEVER a leak, even in torrential monsoon that forced others to abandon their Eureka and N. Face into the Staika. Built tough and it is a bit heavy because.
- Will last indefinitely if cared for
- Easy to set up
- Not a one-person backpacker
Expensive for a reason, not China-built disposable like SO MANY others out there. Zippers abound and each has a purpose. Easy setup, even for one person. Built-in ground cloth is handy, but I use a larger one, in addition, to help preserve the factory one.
Each tent is "signed" by the assembler (in Estonia, mine anyway).
Extremely stable in high winds, driven snow, blasting sand, and rain.
Very pleasant communications with the Hilleberg family.
I have added an update to my Staika experiences through…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $760
I have added an update to my Staika experiences through September in the detailed review. I am impressed with my new Hilleberg Staika. The evident durability of the materials, fully free standing design, 36 square foot floor space, water pressure rating, zipper size, dual door and roof venting features, and the pitching feature of inner and outer tent together were the deciding factors.
Any "four season tent- summer use ventilation hot tent concerns," the "leaking corner floor seam scare" and "damp sleeping bag at the foot end of the tent because it is too short" notions have been put to rest now that I have tested it in heavy rain and slept in it on two warm humid nights. There were some close silicon/ nylon contenders including other Hilleberg options.
Besides backpacking, it will be a motorcycle adventure tent as well.
- Plenty of room at the head and foot end as well as overhead
- No condensation on two warm muggy nights
- Will last
- None considering the heavier materials are expected to weigh more than a smaller tent with less durable materials.
I decided on the sand colored Staika this spring. In lieu of the one reviewer's story of pouring water into the inside of the tent and seeing it leak out, I did the precautionary seam sealing on the floor corner stitching and the center of the fly cap.
The break-in was on my brick patio in Pennsylvania in early June. I set up for an anticipated record rainfall stormy night and throughout the following rainy day. I had the inner tent roof vents opened and the outer fly doors zipped down to their cap protected limit. I experimented with the inner tent venting options. I also did not use a footprint. I didn't sleep in it that night but routinely hung out and inspected it throughout my torture test.
I did find that it is best to unzip the outer fly only up to 3/4 of the way up when entering the tent. This is enough to comfortably swing under the vestibule and open the inner tent without letting in the heavy rain. The brick patio tends not to pool any water.
Nonetheless, the tent did not condensate nor leak at all! As a matter of fact, it was excellent hanging out in it when all Hell was breaking loose outside! At the end of the following day, I picked up the entire tent (pitched) and carried it into my garage. The tent was completely dried out by the next morning when I broke it down and repacked it
I would like to note: Even if the Staika's floor corner seams weren't sealed and were permeable, I couldn't see how water would get through as they are raised 2" off of the ground and under the outer tent. That is unless a person had it pitched in a puddle more than 2 inches deep.
1st night in the Santinoni area of the Adirondacks I pitched it about 150 yards off of the trailhead road in some rarely visited thick woods in warm muggy weather by a stream bed. I made a 3 mil plastic "full" footprint which stayed in place even though it is not clipped on.
This tent has plenty of length: end to end, wall slope, and overhead room.There are over 6 inches of extra room at each end of my 4" x 78" x 25" pad. I am 5' 11". The slope of the inner tent is steep enough that the inner tent does not hang over my head nor feet. In terms of width, two people would still be very comfortable.
The sand color blends extremely well into the woodland environment and the reflectors came in handy when searching for it at midnight after a post pitching trip to Long Lake for libations.. Netting kept the mosquito hoards out and I had no condensation issues as I slept with the inner door solid panels unzipped/ door screens closed. I had the front fly flap open and top of the backside fly partially unzipped.
The 2nd night I pitched it in an unoccupied leanto. It must of helped with the crawling insects as the leanto had many active spider webs. Otherwise same kind of night (just a bit cooler) and no condensation or hot tent issues at all. There was a heavy fog in the morning but since the tent was in the leanto I didn't have any dew to contend with.
My full pack weight was 28 lbs. I wouldn't want to thru hike the A.T. with this rig although I have done sections of it with a 35-40 lb. pack. But for base camp setup and occasional above tree line destinations it is acceptable to me. I have made weight sacrifices elsewhere including a 60 liter 4.7 Lb. hauler, a 2.7 lb. bear canister which is required in the High Peak area, an extremely comfortable 2.4 lb. QCore pad, 1 lb. can of bear spray, 1.2 lb. first aid kit, a 3 lb. Feathered Friends rectangular (thank God) sleeping bag, Osprey 1.7 lb. day pack, and a full size Buck knife. I also packed my Trangia stove, which again is worth the extra weight to me since it eliminates the possibility of knocking my meal off the burner.
What deterred me from the ultra lights and midrange tents despite their low weight, was the overall durability and, in the case of single walled options, condensation issues. Other deterrents were the non free standing pitching issues and the durability of/or lack of bug netting. The water absorption and resultant increased wet weight and over time delamination issues of a polyurethane coated tents were also concerns. Water pressure ratings are what they are; and, the higher the rating the more waterproof the tent will be, especially over time.
The abrasion resistance and stitching stretch of the Cuben tents were also concerns. Tarps are out of the question for me due to the NE bug population and weather extremes (not to mention the coy dog or bear in the face phenomena.) Hammock options such as a Hennessy are not conducive to above timberline pitching but look like they would be handy on a steep, wooded mountain slope despite the other hammock oriented drawbacks. I personally need to stretch out truly flat with lots of leg room.
And yes, the Hilleberg Black Label Tent's YKK zippers are heavy duty.
My Staika and the confidence I now have for it is well worth the extra 4lbs. of tent to me. August will be the next opportunity for a two night'er. The bugs should be minimal by that time and the temperatures very cool at night, But no matter what the weather brings I can confidently say: "Bring It On!"
August: Whiteface and Esther Trail Head- Humid and a wicked wind!. I pitched the tent about 150" off the trailhead after arriving around 10:00 PM. Only worry that night was having the trees crash onto the tent. The rain didn't start until the afternoon while descending the 8 mile Whiteface highway in the Hurricane force wind and rain. which was pretty much like walking through a carwash with a poncho on. Since a Bed and Breakfast in Keene Valley were on that's night agenda..Staika didn't have to submit to any rain this time and I had packed it in the car before I started out that morning.
September: Two nights in the Seward Range Trailhead of the Adirondacks.
The 1st night the Temp was in the 50's with a light drizzle and heavy fog. I was in the closest tent site about a 1/2 mile from the trailhead parking lot. The next closest individuals were 6 miles away at the head of the access road toward the Saranac Lake Highway. I was dry and condensation free and glad I had two relatively sturdy walls and heavier frame between me and whatever may have been lurking in the fog, especially since it was earlier that week that a bear had stepped onto a womans tent, compressed it on her back and held it there for a few seconds while she was sleeping at the Marcy Dam area.
Saturday, while climbing Seward, Donaldson and Emmons, the weather changed to extreme soaking rain, major temperature drop and and fog. After 18 soaking exhaustive miles and passing up Simmons for a later date, I hobbled back to the deserted Trailhead and the Murano's heater and peeled out of my soaked gear.. I then made the short drive back to the Tent. No one stole it and, yes, I was worried.
I somehow mustered up enough energy to huddle under the back hatch of the Murano and cook hot soup as the darkness set in. I would have loved to try cooking in the vestibule; but, The Adirondacks is one place you do not want to cook in a tent! Staika had now had over 24 hours continuous and that day extreme precipitation. Yet, I found myself back in the heavenly environment of my Feathered Friends Condor and a DRY interior.
I did notice how effective my DIY full ground cloth was, as it was condensation soaked underneath yet the inner tent including the underside of the tent floor was completely dry. I once again lit my 6 hour candle lantern and placed it in the vestibule, left the candle side inner door half open and happily read a chapter of a great book on Adirondack history and slipped into much needed sleep to the sound of rain on the tent walls and the glow of the candle..
The Sunday morning temperature was around 35 degrees, but the rain had subsided. I took advantage of being able to detach the dry inner tent threw it in the back of the Murano with the sleeping bag and pad without worrying about trashing it back there. I then was able to pack the wet ground cloth and outer tent in a trash bag. This feature really paid off.
A couple of good points here:
1) The Staika's outer tent did not sag when wet. The fact that it was not necessary to adjust it was one of my deciding points and It has proven to be the case.
2) I am compelled to mention that there is an individual who has made a major effort to flood multiple internet Staika and Hilleberg vendor websites, Forums and YouTube postings complaining about Hillebergs not seam sealing the bathtub floor corner seams and not being happy with their fair response. I even noticed one reader expressing lost interest in purchasing one because of these remarks.
I can tell you the Staika's corner seams are suspended over 3" above the ground and covered completely by the outer tent. I did a precautionary seam seal when I 1st bought the tent partly because of these remarks. But, I now know by repeated wet weather use it wasn't necessary. The outside of the floor seams of my Staika have remained dry, and I can't see how any water could seep through these unless perhaps It was pitched in pooled water more than 3" deep.
The best tent makers in the world, however the tent…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: £850
The best tent makers in the world, however the tent I bought leaked and Hilleberg told me to fix it myself!
- Easy setup
- Bathtub floor leaks water
- Told to fix it myself
Having just bought a Hilleberg Staika for £850 I noticed that my bathtub floor corner seams were not sealed so I poured in some water and guess what, it ran straight out through the seams. When I looked closely I could even see daylight through some stitch holes.
I sent an email to Hilleberg about it and got the reply "yes, we know they leak but can send you some seam sealant to use." I was staggered that possibly the most expensive tent in the world had such a major design fault and it had not been fixed by the manufacture.
Needless to say I fired off a reply saying the same, but never got a reply, so I took the tent back to the shop and got my money back. While there we checked all the other Hilleberg models in the shop and they all leaked. The other makes of tent we checked all had fully taped seams and none of them leaked.
I've since emailed the MD of the company, but to date have not had a reply — very, very poor customer service.