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Marmot Guides Down Hoody

rated 4.00 of 5 stars
photo: Marmot Guides Down Hoody down insulated jacket

Relatively lightweight but fragile garment for static use in camp. Cut is quite small and skinny, so warmth is still to be determined.

Pros

  • Lightweight

Cons

  • Cut is tight and skinny and layering more than a 100 fleece will be difficult; it is tight over my Macpac Pisa top, very fragile face fabric, and the sewn though design makes it less warm and not at all windproof

It's OK, but it is called a "Down Hoody" not a parka and as a "Hoody" it is as described.

I have to say tho that the Marmot size guide is as unreliable as Macpac's and it fits more like a Large/Extra Large. I am an XL Tall in US Army sizes and while this is labled an XXL it fits more like an army medium to large.

There is very little room for layering in winter and it is filled for maximum loft, not maximum warmth, especially as it is stitched through and not box walled. The cut is not "regular" as described but much more athletic and slim, especially in the sleeves.

This will create a problem with my Macpac Pisa top, so I may need to go back to using the Patagonia R1 Ninja gridfleece and make a new windshirt.

Warmth wise it will sit between the Uniqlo UL and the old dinosaur and about equal to the Patagonia DAS when that garment was new. I have been using the DAS for a long time, but this jacket is half the weight and bulk. Worth what I paid on sale, but not worth full Australian retail by a long margin, and the fabric looks and feels fragile, so not a mountaineering top despite the helmet-shaped hood, but probably suitable for sheltered static above the snowline here.

Time will tell if it will need a shell over it for wind resistance and the extra warmth a secondary shell gives. It is not anywhere near large enough to wear as a belay parka. If I had an XXL Patgonia DAS rather than an XL it might layer over this, but the XL is too small.

Hope this helps anybody thinking of buying one.

Experience

I have 40 years experience bushwalking and several winter climbing seasons
My usual winter tops are more robust than this and I will give a long term report after the Southern winter. I will be using this to replace an older Patagonia DAS parka in XL.

Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $AUD 170-

It's a very warm jacket, inexpensive and great quality.

Pros

  • Warmth
  • Great hood
  • Hydrophobic down

Cons

  • Heavy
  • Bulky

 

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It's a great jacket if you know what to expect from this.

It's not a thin jacket to use as second layer, it's more like a belay jacket or maybe a jacket for high altitudes or some really cold environments.

1) Fit & Comfort:  It is a bit thick when you wear it, but after a few minutes and when you get used to it, you will feel as if you have nothing.

Apart from that it is a very comfortable jacket and the size is correct.

2) AdjustabilityIt has two laces at the bottom, next to the zip, to adjust it at the waist; also, the hood can be adjusted from the front with two laces with locks.

The sleeve cuffs have an elastic and can be adjusted with a velcro.

3) Water Resistance: The manufacturer says that it has a DWR treatment and hydrophobic down, but as with all down jackets, it is not recommended to use them in the rain or snow, as they lose much of their insulating power when they get wet.

4) Breathability: It is a down jacket with a lot of insulating power, so it is not recommended for dynamic activities, because you will surely sweat under it.

5) WarmthIt is an excellent jacket for high altitudes or for extremely cold areas. It does a great job of keeping you warm when you sit down to rest or have to do a static activity, like belaying your rope partner.

6) Layering: It is a difficult jacket to use as an intermediate layer, because it is a bit thick. Either way, I usually wear it under my Gore-Tex jacket in very cold, windy places with rain or snow.

7) AbrasionThe outer fabric is a very thin micro rip stop fabric.I have been using it for a little over a year and it still shows no signs of wear, but I don't know how it will do it in the long term

8) FunctionOne of the advantages of this jacket is its functionalities, since it has two side pockets, one for the internal chest and one for the external chest.All zippers are top quality and work great.The hood allows the use of a helmet underneath, so it is excellent for belay.

9) ConditionsI have used this jacket in a wide variety of conditions, from the heights of Aconcagua to the cold and humid places of El Chalten and it always gave me excellent results.

In my case, I usually suffer a lot from the heat and perspire a lot, I only use it in times where it is really cold and for static activities (belay, cooking, activities in the camp)

10) Conclusions: If what you are looking for is a down jacket to wear throughout the day, either in the city or in the mountains and to do all kinds of things, maybe this is not the right one, because it is a bit thick, extremely warm and uncomfortable for that.

But if what you are looking for is a piece of equipment that protects you during the worst conditions in the mountains, this may be a great jacket for your choice.

Source: bought it new
Price Paid: 100.90 CDN (On Sale)

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Specs

Men's
Price MSRP: $250.00
Current Retail: $149.99-$250.00
Historic Range: $84.83-$300.00
Product Weight 1 lb 7.2 oz / 658 g
Main Fabric 100% Polyester Mini Ripstop DWR 1.6 oz/yd
Lining Fabric 100% Polyester Embossed WR 1.8 oz/yd
Insulation Type 700 Fill Down with Down Defender, 195g
Center Back Length 28.5 in
Women's
Price MSRP: $250.00
Current Retail: $123.49-$275.00
Historic Range: $62.49-$275.00
Product Weight 1 lb 4.8 oz / 589.7 g
Main Fabric 100% Polyester Mini Ripstop DWR 1.6 oz/yd
Insulation Type 700 Fill Down with Down Defender, 149.8g
Center Back Length 26.25 in
Kids'
Price MSRP: $140.00
Current Retail: $59.00-$140.00
Historic Range: $30.83-$145.00
Product Weight 15.8 oz / 447.9 g
Main Fabric 100% Polyester Mini Ripstop DWR 1.6 oz/yd
Lining Fabric 100% Polyester Embossed WR 1.8 oz/yd
Insulation Material 700 Fill Power Down with Down Defender
Center Back Length 21.25 in
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