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Klymit Cross Canyon 3

rated 3.0 of 5 stars
photo: Klymit Cross Canyon 3 three-season tent

Specs

Price MSRP: $229.95
Current Retail: $229.95
Reviewers Paid: $150.00
Pack Weight 7.6 lbs / 3.4 kg
Pack Size 20 x 7 in / 51 x 18 cm
Trail Weight 7 lbs / 3.2 kg
Fast Fly Weight 5.1 lbs / 81.6 oz
Floor Area 44 sq ft / 4.1 sq m
Floor Dimensions 86 x 75 in /218 x 191 cm
Vestibule Area 27 (13.5 sq/ft x 2) / .5 sq/m (1.2 sq/m x 2)
Peak Height 52 in / 132 cm
Pole Construction Aluminum
Mesh Fabric 40D Polyester Mesh
Fly Fabric 68D Polyester Taffeta PU / 1800 mm WR coating
Floor Fabric 75D Polyester PU / 3000 mm

Reviews

1 review
5-star:   0
4-star:   0
3-star:   1
2-star:   0
1-star:   0

Expansive interior, flappy exterior, cheap—but not cheap enough.

Pros

  • Durable materials
  • Vertical end walls
  • Lots of vestibule space (also a con)
  • Big tent doors
  • Zips on tent body worked great
  • Lots of pockets
  • Cheap

Cons

  • Flappy in the wind no matter how many stakes
  • Cheap stakes
  • 3 stakes required per vestibule, 12 total
  • 0 color coding
  • Short length
  • Sticky fly zip
  • Heavy!

After enjoying the space in our Sierra Designs Meteor Lite 3, we decided to upgrade our car camping tent. Our venerable Mountainsmith Morrison had provided us years of shelter, and I stupidly sold it off to buy the Klymit. 

The fabrics used are all heavy. This is a car camping tent so almost 8 pounds is fine if the tent holds up. So I'm not going into details about weight like I normally do. We bought this tent for its size. And it is great for two shorter people (I'm 5'9.5"). The length of 84" (by spec), 82" (measured), means this tent is NOT for taller people. Our Klymit double pad only had 5" left over at the foot and head. But it worked great for my wife and I. We went with a friend and we had ample room for three to eat and play cards inside the tent.

We spent three days in Canyonlands Needles district putting the Klymit through its paces, but it didn't fare well. The first night was pretty windy with gusts hitting 20 mph. We were camped out on slick rock and I couldn't get a stake in the ground. No worries, we'll just stack some rocks—right. I got the tent together, which took longer than normal thanks to the wind and no color coding on any of the buckles to attach the fly to the body. The buckles that attach to the tent seem really cheap, like they will break at any moment, and tightening them down did not get the fly tight. There was no forecasted rain, so I got lazy with a 4p footprint that was a little too big. But if you look at the pic, you can see how loose the fly is on the head area. This is tightened all the way down. So if its not staked out, its going to flap. And even staked out (with rocks), it flapped.

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The tent has lots of stake points, but none seemed to work well. I added some guy line to the mids at each end and put those around rocks. That seemed to make the fabric at the top loose, so I put the rocks lower and closer—nope still not taut. I kind of gave up and moved on to the vestibule. The vestibules are big! They are also not cut normally and require 3 stakes to pull it tight. So I gathered more rocks. 

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3 stakes required to keep the vestibule tight

Eight rock piles later and the tent was still flapping loudly. We tightened things down, added more rocks, moved things around. Nothing worked! We were car camping, so we pulled the car right up to the windy side to use it as a wind break. That worked better than the rock piles on that side. All three of us ate our food in the tent without hitting elbows thanks to the large floor area and vertical-ish walls.

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Flapping in the wind

We called it good and went to "sleep". Unfortunately the flapping of the fly kept us up. We tried ear plugs and that helped, but it was a terrible nights sleep.

We packed up the tent and did several miles of incredible hiking.

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Druid Arch

Night number 2 was calm with just a little breeze. So we got the tent set up a bit quicker and cleaned out some of the sand that had accumulated inside the tent from the prior night. 

The tent has a ton of headroom and the end walls are pretty vertical because of the pre-bent poles. But there is no brow pole, so the side was are not as vertical as our Meteor Lite 3.  

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Tons of headroom

There are pockets at each corner, above each door and an attic area. All except the ones above the door worked well. The ones above the door kept coming unhinged when we opened the door and fly, so we didn't use them. 

Now for the fly. ARRGGGHHH!

All three of us were able to get the fly zipper stuck. One night venture required 10 minutes of work to get this thing unstuck. I've always had issues with fly zips getting stuck, but not like this. Every other time we zipped it up, it got stuck. Two hands and very slow zipping seemed to minimize the sticking, but wow, it was frustrating. Maybe having all 3 stakes in each vestibule would help with the sticky zip?? I don't know, but at 2AM, trying to fix a jammed zip is not my idea of fun. On the plus side, I was up anyway with the flapping, so ... The body door zips did work great and could be opened one-handed. The doors are massive and make entry and exit easy.

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Zipper jammed in the fly fabric - again

 

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Morning sunrise

It was very dry and no rain, so 0 condensation was found inside the tent. But, because the guys are on the corners of the tent fly, the fly at the mid of the head and foot touches the tent body near the top. Having the fly touch the body is never good for condensation. Our Mountainsmith has guy outs at the mid points and this works very well to keep the fly off the body. I really miss our Mountainsmith!

The guy lines are NOT reflective and sure enough we tripped over one of them in the dark. Not a big deal as we just moved the rock back into place. But seriously, an extra $0.20 to get reflective guy lines should have been spent by Klymit.

The included stakes are heavy! Yet somehow pretty flexible. I don't see these stakes lasting long before becoming bent. They are also very large diameter, something that should give them strength, but will also make them very hard to get into the ground. There are 12 stakes and I wondered why. Now I know why, 6 stakes for the vestibules, 4 for the corners and 2 for the mids = 12. Way too many required stakes, that don't keep the tent taut. I've used non-freestanding tents that require fewer stakes. Klymit did include a pole splint which is a nice extra. The bag is a cool idea. You roll the tent, fly, stakes, and pole up into a piece of nylon, clip it closed then pull 2 side "bags" over each end and clip that together. Klymit show the bag being used as a door mat and I think it could work well. But, I found it a little awkward as the fabrics slipped a lot and stuffing into a burrito like the Sierra Designs is much easier.  I also noticed the webbing on the bag was starting to look a little worn after only a few uses. The weave on the webbing seemed not tight enough to hold up to a ton of use.

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Stakes, bag, poles

I bought the Klymit at Costco for $150—much less than the MSRP, which given the features of the tent the $220 price is NOT justified. I never put stuff in the vestibule as I don't like spiders, scorpions, snakes, ants... in my gear, so I really don't need a big vestibule. And the flapping that occurs because of the large vestibule is just too much for us. I hate abusing return policies, but this tent is just too many compromises to be worthwhile keeping and it will be going back. If you are looking for a tent with a big interior, a relatively cheap price, want lots of vestibule space and are willing to put in a lot of stakes, then this tent is for you - but not me.

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Night #2

Experience

Only 2 nights with this tent, both were frustrating.

Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $150

Alicia MacLeay TRAILSPACE STAFF

Bummer about the tent not working out better, Brian, but thanks for taking the time to share your experience with it. The trip looks beautiful though!


1 month ago
Alicia MacLeay TRAILSPACE STAFF

Do you think you'll go back to a Mountainsmith Morrison, like the Evo 2, 3, or 4? https://www.trailspace.com/gear/mountainsmith/morrison-evo-3/


1 month ago
Brian Nordberg

If I could find an Evo 3 in stock, I might buy it, but the Evo has a goldilocks issue. The 2p is a little too small (36 sq ft) and the 3p is too big (47 sq ft). 40 sq ft is really optimal for us. The size of the cross canyon really is great! I may setup in the back yard and see if there is a way to use fewer stakes, but all I can think of is putting in a lead stake and guying the 2 side part of the vestibule to that lead. This creates a tripping hazard and will probably not pull things correctly. I'm really bummed about the cross canyon as it checked lots of boxes. Currently contemplating a Tungsten 3 (not UL) to replace the Cross Canyon 3. I actually had a Sierra Designs Full Moon 3 in my cart and realized just before checkout, that it also required 2 stakes for its fly. Hopefully this isn't a new trend.


1 month ago
Alicia MacLeay TRAILSPACE STAFF

Yeah, it can be tough finding tents in stock lately. It looks like there are quite a few Marmot Tungstens out there, if you go that route, though: https://www.trailspace.com/gear/marmot/tungsten-3p/ Just to throw out a few other ideas...what about something like the Big Agnes Seedhouse SL3, which is 39 sq ft and is freestanding (I don't know if it checks off the rest of your boxes though)? https://www.trailspace.com/gear/big-agnes/seedhouse-sl3/ The MSR Elixir 3 is also 39.5 sq ft: https://www.trailspace.com/gear/msr/elixir-3/ Good luck with whatever you choose, and please let us know how this tent or a new one works out!


1 month ago
Avid Hiker

Thank you for this review.


29 days ago
Avid Hiker

Arrrh! Forgot about return != new line. Continuing previous comment. I've been eyeing this tent for some time at Costco, but was unsure whether it would be better than the Big Agnes Frying Pan SL 2 I have now. Based on your review, I think I'll give it a miss.


29 days ago

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